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- From: support@usr.com (Jim Thomsen)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: 28.8 baud & telco responsibilities
- Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 10:16:32 GMT
- Organization: American Information Systems, Inc.
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- On 1 Mar 1996 12:43:35 -0500, root@eri.erinet.com (Operator) wrote:
-
- >Greg E Hersh (geh@world.std.com) wrote:
- >: A bandwidth of a voice communication channel is about 3.5 Khz. I don't
- >: have exact specifications on a noise level, I believe there is a value
- >: in db at 1000 Hz (can telco specialists provide an exact figure?). There
- >: is a Shannon equation which ties up a bandwidth and a noise and gives you
- >: a maximal theoritical limit of bits/sec for a given channel (again, I don't
- >: remember exact figures, somewhere in the range of 35-40 bps?)
- >Here is the figures I have..
- >
- >Conditioning Freq Range(hz) db limits realitive to 1004 hz
- > ABOVE BELOW
- >None 300-3000 3 12
- > 500-2500 2 8
- >
- >C1 300-2700 2 6
- > 300-3000 3 12
- > 1000-2400 1 3
- >
- >C2 300-3000 2 6
- > 500-2800 1 3
- >
- >C4 300-3200 2 6
- > 500-3000 2 3
- >
- >
- >Notice that the bandwith that they guarantee is 2700hz
- >
- >-Luke
-
- All,
-
- Very good thread. Here is some information on V.FC/V.34/V.34+ that I
- would like to add and I hope is usefull.
-
-
-
- All six symbol rates are used- 2400, 2743, 2800, 3000, 3200, and
- 3429 in V.34 modulation. Each symbol rate has a minimum and maximum
- bit rate associated with it, as shown here.
-
- Symbol Rate Minimum Bit Rate Maximum Bit Rate
- 2400 2400 21600
- 2743 4800 24000
- 2800 4800 24000
- 3000 4800 26400
- 3200 4800 28800
- 3429 4800 28800
-
- Each symbol rate (except for 3429) has two possible carrier
- frequencies and bandwidth requirements, which are shown below. The
- modem will chose a carrier frequency that best suits the available
- bandwidth of the phone line, and where that available bandwidth
- occurs.
-
- If the phone line is suffering from high end roll off, the
- lower carrier frequency for a given symbol rate will be chosen. If
- the phone line has poor low frequency response but a good high end
- frequency response, the higher carrier frequency for a given symbol
- rate will be chosen. This is one part of V.34 that has a distinct
- advantage over V.FC, and even V.32bis and V.32terbo.
-
- The approximate bandwidth requirements for each symbol rate are shown
- in the chart below. Note that when using V.34, the modem can operate
- at either of two frequency ranges for any of the given symbol rates.
- This allows it to select the frequency range of better quality for
- that call.
-
- Maximum Maximum
- Symbol Carrier Bandwidth Bit Rate Bit Rate
- Rate Protocol Frequency Requirements (V.34) (V.34+)
- ----- --------- --------- ------------ -------- --------
- 2400 V.34 1600Hz 400-2800 Hz 21600 21600
- V.34/VFC 1800Hz 600-3000 Hz 21600 21600
-
- 2743 V.34 1646 Hz 274-3018 Hz 24000 26400
- V.34/VFC 1829 Hz 457-3200 Hz 24000 26400
-
- 2800 V.34 1680 Hz 280-3080 Hz 24000 26400
- V.34/VFC 1867 Hz 467-3267 Hz 24000 26400
-
- 3000 V.34 1800 Hz 300-3300 Hz 26400 28800
- V.34 2000 Hz 500-3500 Hz 26400 28800
- VFC 1875 Hz 375-3376 Hz 26400
-
- 3200 V.34 1829 Hz 229-3429 Hz 28800 31200
- V.34/VFC 1920 Hz 320-3520 Hz 28800
-
- 3429 V.34/VFC 1959 Hz 244-3674 Hz 28800 33600
-
- As you can see a connection above 19,200 requires 2800 Hz of bandwidth
- with V.FC/V.34/V.34+. Most phone lines should support this amount of
- bandwidth, many will even support more, but it is not a given.
-
- Regards,
-
- Jim Thomsen
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